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    Bailout deal reached

    Final details still to come
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26884523/

    WASHINGTON - After a breakthrough on a $700 billion Wall Street bailout, lawmakers and Bush administration now must settle the final details on a rescue intended to keep credit flowing and avert a crippling recession.

    "This is the bottom line: If we do not do this, the trauma, the chaos and the disruption to everyday Americans' lives will be overwhelming, and that's a price we can't afford to risk paying,"? Sen. Judd Gregg, the chief Senate Republican in the talks, told The Associated Press on Sunday. "I do think we'll be able to pass it, and it will be a bipartisan vote."?

    Congressional leaders, who announced the tentative deal after marathon negotiations that ended early Sunday, hope to have a House vote Monday; a Senate vote would come later.

    "We've still got more to do to finalize it, but I think we're there,"? said Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who participated in the talks at the Capitol.

    The presidential nominees came behind the outlines of the bailout. "This is something that all of us will swallow hard and go forward with,"? said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. "The option of doing nothing is simply not an acceptable option."?

    Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., sought credit for taxpayer safeguards added to the initial proposal from the Bush administration. "I was pushing very hard and involved in shaping those provisions,"? he said.

    Under the plan, the government would purchase mortgage-backed securities and other bad debts held by banks and other investors. The money should help troubled lenders make new loans and keep credit lines open. The government would later try to sell the discounted loan packages at the best possible price.

    At the insistence of House Republicans, some money would be devoted to a program that would encourage holders of distressed mortgage-backed securities to keep them and buy government insurance to cover defaults.

    The legislation would place "reasonable"? limits on severance packages for executives of companies that benefit from the rescue plan, said a senior administration official who was authorized to speak only on background.

    It also calls for the financial sector to help make up the difference if the government does not recoup its investment in five years, the official said, but details remained unclear. The government would receive stock warrants in return for the bailout relief, giving taxpayers a chance to share in financial companies' future profits.

    To help struggling homeowners, the plan would require the government to try renegotiating the bad mortgages it acquires with the aim of lowering borrowers' monthly payments so they can keep their homes.

    "Nobody got everything they wanted,"? said Democratic Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. He predicted it would pass, though not by a large majority.

    Gregg, R-N.H., said he thinks taxpayers will come out as financial winners. "I don't think we're going to lose money, myself. We may, it's possible, but I doubt it in the long run,"? he said.

    Frank appeared on C-SPAN, Obama was on CBS' "Face the Nation,"? while McCain spoke on "This Week"? on ABC.

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    Re: Bailout deal reached

    This is a huge crock of BS! Just slap the taxpayers who are responsible with their finances in the face and reward greedy Execs. and irresponsible consumers. Why don't they pay off the mortages of us homeowners who have scratched and scrimped to make ends meet and make our payments? Heck, I would have loved to have had a $250,000 home beyond my means but I was realistic.
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    Re: Bailout deal reached

    That is how they got rich.

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    Re: Bailout deal reached

    That should have been part of the stipulation as well IMO if they are going to bail them out. Those people get to keep their house, but that land and home could not be figured into any future loan for the owner who was to be foreclosed on.
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    Re: Bailout deal reached

    You'll shoot your eye out.

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    Re: Bailout deal reached

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GC1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is a huge crock of BS! Just slap the taxpayers who are responsible with their finances in the face and reward greedy Execs. and irresponsible consumers. Why don't they pay off the mortages of us homeowners who have scratched and scrimped to make ends meet and make our payments? Heck, I would have loved to have had a $250,000 home beyond my means but I was realistic. </div></div>

    I agree. Government has nothing to do with responsibility. What you and I need is a lobbyist. This country needs a revolution - a pure, hard-core revolution - folks who will travel to DC, drag the crooks out, and commence to tar and feather them. People make take this statement as humor, but until the real Americans -those who work hard every day, strive to support a family - rise up and demand changes, then we're screwed. And screwed royally.

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    Re: Bailout deal reached

    Yep- what he said.

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    Re: Bailout deal reached

    it didnt pass, now the dow is down almost 500 points. Mass chaos ensues.
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    Re: Bailout deal reached

    Let it crash...all it'll do is bring everyone else down to the level we've been relegated to in this region.
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